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DFLabs IncMan SOAR vs VMware Carbon Black Cloud comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Torq
Sponsored
Average Rating
8.8
Reviews Sentiment
6.6
Number of Reviews
20
Ranking in other categories
AI-SOC (1st), AI-Powered Security Automation (1st)
DFLabs IncMan SOAR
Average Rating
0.0
Reviews Sentiment
7.3
Number of Reviews
1
Ranking in other categories
Security Orchestration Automation and Response (SOAR) (29th)
VMware Carbon Black Cloud
Average Rating
8.2
Reviews Sentiment
6.8
Number of Reviews
19
Ranking in other categories
Security Incident Response (4th), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) (52nd)
 

Mindshare comparison

Security Orchestration Automation and Response (SOAR) Mindshare Distribution
ProductMindshare (%)
DFLabs IncMan SOAR0.9%
Microsoft Sentinel9.8%
Palo Alto Networks Cortex XSOAR9.0%
Other80.3%
Security Orchestration Automation and Response (SOAR)
Security Incident Response Mindshare Distribution
ProductMindshare (%)
VMware Carbon Black Cloud10.2%
ServiceNow Security Operations9.3%
VMware Carbon Black Endpoint8.0%
Other72.5%
Security Incident Response
 

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Solutions Architect at ProArch
Automation has streamlined multi-tenant SOC workflows and improves alert handling efficiency
Although the reporting within Torq is not that great, we did ask for many features regarding reporting in Torq, but due to some platform constraints, they could not make the whole dataset available for us to be used in reporting. Except for that, we used some basic reporting. When I used Torq, it was indeed in the early stages of AI capabilities. Only a few customers were allowed to use it, and we were among them. It functioned well as long as we summarized the data properly. If you input garbage, you would get garbage out. Thus, we had to do significant fine-tuning regarding what data context we provided to the AI orchestrator to get meaningful results. In terms of Torq's unified platform approach to AI SOC automation and case management compared to managing multiple point solutions across my security stack, I find it case-centric. The unified view in case management is good since it provides clarity, although there are limitations regarding how many items in case management can be modified at once. Bulk operations are very limited, potentially due to their back-end database or data retrieval processes that can be improved. Regarding improvements for Torq, when we were onboarded, there were aspects we were uncertain about, such as the number of cases that could be generated, what data we could bring in, how many clients we could onboard, and similar concerns. Initially, we also lacked clarity about the number of playbooks or workflows we could build. Different triggers like system triggers, case-based triggers, and others can be employed without restrictions, but when it comes to on-demand and scheduled jobs, there is a limitation based on the subscription and pricing tier that notably caps the number of workflows we can create. No bulk editing across cases was one issue, along with limited filtering related to single grouping constraints. Additionally, the out-of-the-box case templates provided require substantial modifications before they become usable. There is also a feature in the cases for notes that cannot be searched. They are only visible through the UI, which is another area for improvement. The workflow and execution-based charges seem misleading as this was not discussed initially. I am not sure if new customers are made aware of this. It seems that workflows revolving around cases hinder functionality outside of case management, as we have many use cases needing on-demand triggers and schedules for functions like reporting or polling devices. Creating additional workflows to achieve basic functionalities raises costs significantly, which disadvantages customers. While they facilitate optimization and scaling, the support received tends to be very basic. Improvements can be made in that area as well.
reviewer1137807 - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Team Manager at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
Protects an organization from the threat of a data breach or cyberattack
The vendors themselves will actually help with any customizations a client may require. Many vendors don't offer this service or if they do, they charge very high rates. Their vendors are very helpful; they will walk you through the whole Playbook until you have a good grasp of the product. Also, in terms of integration, it is very seamless compared to other cybersecurity products. They also have good features such as multi-tenancy. Every user would like to see these kinds of fanciful features on a robust interface. It actually makes the user feel like they are in a sci-fi movie.
reviewer2771742 - PeerSpot reviewer
Sec consultant at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Has supported consistent deployment across departments but needs better OS compatibility and detection performance
I am not really looking for a new solution, actually, I was preparing for an interview and wanted to have a comparison between both tools. I have not worked with any of these products before, but we had a training demonstration yesterday with Dynatrace, and I have investigated the Wiz solution better. In terms of experience, it will be my first time with CDR. I am working with something for EDR, specifically, we have an EDR, it's VMware Carbon Black Cloud. They have a hybrid environment, both on-prem and cloud. I would usually recommend this product for big companies, because it's not cheap, so only big companies would I expect to pay for that. The review rating for VMware Carbon Black Cloud is 6 out of 10.

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Pros

"What I liked the most about Torq is the actual workflow builder, which is really great because they offer a lot of features and convenience features that are useful for any automation engineer."
"What I appreciate most about Torq is that it is an essential part of our system."
"Under one SOC tool in Torq, analysts get to know everything within the context of an alert or incident they are working on, and this ability to view the whole picture within Torq is one of the major breakthroughs and best offerings of Torq."
"Torq's unified platform approach to AI, SOAR, automation, and case management is superior compared to my experience managing multiple point solutions."
"Torq offers the best feature through integration with AI."
"Torq has exceeded expectations by delivering workflows in a timely and lower effort manner than XSOAR, and it meets all my needs while saving a ton of time and targeting $600,000 saved this year, which is a substantial amount of money."
"Torq has impacted my organization positively by allowing us to earn time and invest resources in other projects that are more meaningful and more interesting, pushing deeper into what a SOC is, and building our processes."
"Torq has definitely changed the day-to-day experience for our security analysts, as they feel more excited and feel that Torq interface and workflow allow them to build things themselves."
"The vendors themselves will actually help with any customizations a client may require, and their vendors are very helpful; they will walk you through the whole Playbook until you have a good grasp of the product."
"The most valuable feature is its ability to seek out abnormal activity and to create alerts."
"Carbon Black Cb Response excels at providing context to indicators when responding to incidents. It allows responders to understand the entire scope of an incident and quickly contain it to minimize impact and disruption."
"With this product in our hands, we are able to remotely isolate exploited endpoints in seconds and perform a live deep dive of any endpoint into its running processes (as necessary) without the need for extra scripts."
"The solution does very well as a baseline EDR and provides good process-level management."
"Integration and scalability are the most valuable."
"Setting up and managing the setup for this solution is okay. It is stable, scalable, and it runs just fine. No issues with technical support."
"The enhanced logging and data analysis of the incident response and investigation components allowed us to quickly identify and resolve security issues before they could spread."
"Mostly what we are using is CB Response, because we have a product on Carbon Black CB Response."
 

Cons

"However, we did encounter some problems with custom steps, which definitely affected our progress, and the speed of bug fixes is also a bit slower than expected."
"There are some issues and bugs that I think need to be fixed, but they are currently not focused on it."
"Torq can probably use more ML and look at what can be closed and what cannot be closed in terms of data classification."
"The workflow and execution-based charges seem misleading as this was not discussed initially, and creating additional workflows to achieve basic functionalities raises costs significantly, which disadvantages customers."
"Even now, we have workflows that are in production that use AI steps and I get different results, making it unusable to some degree."
"Regarding the pricing of Torq, I would say it is expensive."
"Additionally, the documentation for Torq is not very clear. Most of the information is presented in videos, which are not ideal for reading; there are mostly paragraphs and other text-based content."
"The initial deployment of Torq was not easy."
"Because we are located in Singapore, there is a time-zone difference with customer support. The support is not 24/7 so we have to work with them on their schedule for deployment and customization, which is usually in the afternoon, Singapore time."
"The support is not 24/7."
"The solution needs to simplify the process of adding custom watchlists, as well as embrace YARA for rule creation."
"If Carbon Black could improve in the area or reducing the number of false positives or if there was a better way to filter out false positives that would enhance efficiency and utility."
"The education and awareness of customers here in Vietnam for Carbon Black CB Response is not good at the moment."
"The biggest issue I encountered was one where old logs were not being overwritten as expected so the system drive kept filling up from time to time. However, support was usually quite responsive and happy to jump on a remote session to take a look at it for us. That log bug has probably been resolved with an update by now."
"Training and education for both partner and customer, including product marketing need to be improved."
"The solution can only handle about 500 bans or blocks."
"For a junior engineer, it's confusing."
"The solution's support could be improved."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

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"We had no issues purchasing through our preferred reseller and were able to get a fair price even when not purchasing direct. Carbon Black Enterprise Response didn’t break the bank, though adding on the matching antivirus and anti-malware components of the Protect product was more than we could afford, even with some discounting. Cb Response is really designed to complement Carbon Black’s Defense product. While Response can be used on its own, coupling with Defense seems like the best strategy if you can afford the price tag."
"VMware Carbon Black Cloud is an expensive solution."
"Purchase Professional Services up front as part of the implementation package, then renew hours annually to ensure you have adequate support for upgrades and enhancements. Overbuy by at least 10% to account for infrastructure growth."
"The solution is very inexpensive so there is great cost savings to using it."
"You need to pay for the licensing of the product. The pricing is costly."
"Pricing for this solution could be made lower."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Financial Services Firm
12%
Outsourcing Company
11%
Comms Service Provider
11%
Manufacturing Company
9%
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Comms Service Provider
15%
Outsourcing Company
14%
Construction Company
12%
Manufacturing Company
9%
 

Company Size

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Large Enterprise
Midsize Enterprise
Small Business
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Company SizeCount
Small Business6
Midsize Enterprise5
Large Enterprise13
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Company SizeCount
Small Business5
Midsize Enterprise3
Large Enterprise9
 

Questions from the Community

What needs improvement with Torq?
What has not worked as well as I hoped with Torq is related to product data management and storing data, although it ...
What is your primary use case for Torq?
My main use case for Torq is for managing IT services and providing faster response.
What advice do you have for others considering Torq?
I would rate Torq a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. I chose this rating because customer service is excellent. I suggest to...
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What to choose: an endpoint antivirus, an EDR solution or both?
I can recommend Carbon Black, an award-winning next-gen anti-virus (NGAV) and endpoint detection and response (EDR) s...
What's the difference between Carbon Black CB Response and Carbon Black CB Defense?
Carbon Black offers two different levels of Endpoint Detection and Response. One is the VM Carbon Black Cloud Endpoin...
What needs improvement with Carbon Black CB Response?
I see room for improvement as I remember some problems on compatibility with some operating systems; I recall we coul...
 

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DFLabs IncMan Incident Response
Carbon Black CB Response
 

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